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In which even the university of Cambridge admits that ancient Egypt was Black African

November 13, 2015 By MsAfropolitan

Musicians at a banquet. Mural from the tomb of Rekhmire, vizier under Thutmosis III (1490-1439 BCE) and Amenophis II (1439-1413 BCE). 18th Dynasty, New Kingdom, Egypt.

Musicians at a banquet. Mural from the tomb of Rekhmire, vizier under Thutmosis III (1490-1439 BCE) and Amenophis II (1439-1413 BCE). 18th Dynasty, New Kingdom, Egypt.

In 2006, the Cambridge University art and antiquities museum, Fitzwilliam, did a commendable thing when they, following a £1.5 million renewal project, launched their new Egypt galleries. The idea was to showcase ancient Egyptian religion, magic, writing, ritual and to redisplay the collections in a contemporary and dynamic way.

But that was not all. In a rare condemnation of the historical revision of ancient Egypt, the Fitzwilliam Museum admitted that, not only does Egyptology have a European bias, but that the bias means that our understanding of the earliest human civilisation is gravely erroneous. As they put it, “People mainly look at Ancient Egypt through a European bias. This is because the majority of books on Egyptology are written by researchers of European, or North-American backgrounds.”

Instead, the Fitzwilliam Museum decided to adopt an Africa-Centred approach to ancient Egypt.

What does an Africa-centred approach to Egyptology mean? Well, first of all, it acknowledges that Ancient Egypt “is part of African culture” and that while the word ‘Egypt’ is what the Ancient Greeks named ancient Egypt, the original inhabitants called it ‘Kemet’, which literally means ‘the black land’. Therefore, by naming the museum gallery “Virtual Kemet”, the curators intended to remind people that Ancient Egypt is an “African civilization and that whilst the culture had contact with people from other civilizations, it was essentially African in its culture and well as its geographical placement.”

The museum insists, “There are many links between ancient Egyptian and modern African culture, ranging from objects such as headrests to hairstyles such as the side lock, and this and other evidence support the idea that it was an African culture in addition to being geographically in Africa. For these reasons Egypt is seen by people of African descent as part of their cultural heritage and history. […] Egypt was an African country, and their artists depicted the Egyptians as Africans, with black skin and tightly curled hair.” [Emphases mine]

If there remains any doubt about the heritage of ancient Egyptians, the museum declares, “If we look at the skin colour and also facial features on representations of Egyptians, many are what we would consider today to be Black African.” However, even if “we leave colour aside for a moment, we can also find out a great deal from looking at the facial features shown on Egyptian statues. Here, there can be no doubt that we are dealing with people who were African. Faces were broad with high cheekbones and the jaws are typically strong. The noses are also broad and the lips are generally full and fleshy in appearance.”

It makes you wonder how accurate the depiction of Seth, Horus, Bek and Hathor are in the upcoming film Gods Of Egypt.

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In other words, despite the evidence that ancient Egyptians were black Africans, the longstanding tradition of whitewashing ancient Egypt continues. It’s nothing new even if it’s awfully tired and manipulative. Here’s baby Moses being rescued from the Nile, in a rather inaccurate depiction of the inhabitants of Kemet at the time.

As Fela Kuti sang, teacher don’t teach me nonsense.

 

Filed Under: Africa, Decolonisation, Pop Culture, Social Criticism Tagged With: Ancient Egypt, Cambridge, Egyptology, Fela Kuti, Fitzwilliam, gallery, Gods Of Egypt, Kemet, Land of the Black, Mythology, Oxford University, Whitewashing

Comments

  1. MalishaBobbi Green says

    December 8, 2015 at 11:00 pm

    Nice post! Thanx.

    • MsAfropolitan says

      December 9, 2015 at 8:38 pm

      Thanks for reading.

      • Victor says

        February 20, 2019 at 4:46 pm

        Hi there I am Victor I’ve been reading a little bit here on the site it seems as though you’re very knowledgeable of Kemet Africa I’m interested in making a Motion Picture film I want to kind of put a stop to whitewashing and I want to make a film on the invasion of Africa Kemet Africa if interested please give me a call 757-227-0388

      • Kelechie Agu says

        March 7, 2022 at 7:39 am

        I salute you my Sister, all we ask for is the TRUTH… The cover up as being going on throughout the annal’s of time, finally the truth is out. As a people, we have always wondered why all other nationalities’HATE’ us? But when we read ‘our story’ not ‘his tory’ the truth becomes very clear. Thank you, I grew up thinking why am I hated, from nursery-secondary school & it has never stopped. But this has strengthened many of us to keep striving by Yahweh’s grace, to love in the midst of adversity therefore confusing the enemy.

  2. Judith M Snow says

    December 13, 2015 at 12:19 am

    What a beautiful and TRUE article!!!

    • MsAfropolitan says

      December 14, 2015 at 7:12 pm

      Thanks Judith, glad you enjoyed it.

  3. Denise Marinela says

    July 29, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    Very well said ! Sooner or later the thuth will come out.

    • siai says

      June 17, 2022 at 8:15 am

      The truth might come up but truthful researchers are few. Those taking DNA and other scientific researchers are not truthful when it comes to giving black people any credit. They claim the DNA Ancient Egyptians (90 mummies FROM A SINGLE AREA} proves they are closely related to the Middle East (closely?} What is the other part then since they are not exactly Middle Eastern. There is a very great effort to always treat the Negro as inferior and it is too deeply rooted. What we lack is unbiased top scientific researchers. We as black people aught to go into the field of science and take control of our history. Nobody else will tell us the truth only that our DNA was shared by the world through slavery.

  4. Visitor says

    December 18, 2016 at 7:44 pm

    The scholar Tristan Samuels has a paper on academia.edu called ‘The Black Pharaoh Fallacy’ wherein he defuncts the “true negro” archetype used by white scholars to dismiss arguments about “black” Egypt. It’s a worthy read. https://www.academia.edu/6242047/The_Black_Pharaohs_Fallacy

  5. Rakka Kaze says

    July 26, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    Fighting against the European bias… by accepting the European bias that Egypt is part of the never unified whole that is Africa… to create an African bias.
    I guess you had to accept some of it to create this interesting fairy tale. (Egyptians identified blacks as different from themselves, just saying, it’s literally written and depicted in picture.)

    • Victor says

      February 20, 2019 at 5:00 pm

      Hi there I read your comments it doesn’t make sense to leave your place in Europe and go to Africa and build pyramids and then go back to Europe with there is no pyramids and then paint pictures of people on the wall that doesn’t look like Europeans it doesn’t make much sense question yourself.

      • Alicia Thibodeaux says

        November 9, 2021 at 9:52 pm

        Check yourself and whatever reading and sources you have let yourself fall to. Don’t be mad because “BLACK PEOPLE, BLACK AFRICANS” are Egyptians and we have real history, even though “WHITE” people stole the legacies of so many people of color to write the lies you share amongst yourselves. What is your history? Steal, Kill, Rape black men and women and children, and take their land and property, their art culture and everything else; infect people with all kinds of diseases. Just stop… I can keep going because there is sooooo much more. White people were not even present for many 1000’s years, Black African people have been here on this planet from the the “START”…

        • uiliam says

          February 21, 2022 at 10:41 pm

          The last part is pure stupidity, you basically stated that modern blacks are the same as the primates that gave rise to them all, a racial view very similar to the Nazis, that blacks had not scaled their own phylogenetics, the African people with DNA closer to the first human populations are the Koishans and they are very different. and if the egyptians were black they have a serious problem of acceptance of their own skin, especially women who had their skin painted yellow, well the greeks, mesopotamians and minoans should be blacks too, of course, and they took all this from Egypt, and if the whites stole it from Egypt, we can consider that it was the Egyptians who taught all this to the whites, so maybe the problem started there

      • Alicia Thibodeaux says

        November 9, 2021 at 10:00 pm

        Makes sense that you dont have a clue

      • Alicia Thibodeaux says

        November 9, 2021 at 10:01 pm

        Makes sense that you dont have a clue… Try reading a BOOK or 20

      • Uiliam says

        February 21, 2022 at 11:47 pm

        Well, I think the separation of the African population during the early Holocene was enough, I think the culture of the uprising might indicate something. Well I’ve seen Africanists post pictures of Egyptians Punishing Libyans with the following sentence, “Black putting caucasian in their place” and then I lost patience, because by your logic Libyans are also black Africans, even if the Egyptians put it a tone above , white-skinned, and that’s not African anymore, not forgetting that Libyans are also represented with curly hair, what will this be? In addition to claiming the Egyptian culture is bizarre, the Egyptians are ancestors only of the current Egyptians, that is, from the racial point of view Americans, children of blacks with Arabs, whites, etc., are black, that is, as far as we know Egyptians ancients didn’t leave the country in UFOs when Alexander the Great conquered it. I’ve never seen Egyptians and Mesopotamians as white or black, and if you consider the continent, Dravidian Indians are Asian, in addition to the fact that Kushita art already represents the blackest blacks, the wider women, it’s like taking a leap in a few kilometers, and about hair, egyptian wigs originated in nubia, high class egyptian women are sometimes represented with fair skin, even in tombs located in what is now Sudan, near Meroë (some fashion,? I’ll call it Byonce fashion, of course , if Byonce weren’t full of Indo-European mtDNA), anyway, other than that, nobody here is of Egyptian descent. Aside from that appealing to Egypt as the height of civilization in Africa is literally a European view of what a civilization is, although even Europeans seem to be proud of their more tribal (less Greco-Roman) things.

    • Mohammed Maubern says

      September 13, 2021 at 8:02 am

      A sad reminder that Whites and African Americans (mostly old men, old academics and poor, isolated people) like to Hijack history. The Arab-Islam-ness of Egyptians is strong, like SW Arab tribes, Egyptians were like this: an Araboid people. Whites and some Blacks have this Arab mixture but the Egyptians of about 16,000 to 3,000 years Ago were Arab-Hamites who merged into Africa. It is likely Afro-Asiatics were Black Cushitic-Berber people who influened Mediterranean tribes in outermost Africa and Arab-‘Semites’ who absorbed this E African language system. Saying Egyptians r Black is like saying All English Speakers are White. It is literally an ethnic fallacy. Proud-ass mother fuckers imagine all people Brown or all real people Light. I guess Egyptians “black like Beyoncee” not “black like DMX.” … Egyptians were a tan-brown Arab people, North Africans 20,000 years ago were a dark brown Saharan-Moor people. Different people of different origins migrant into other places. Whites are Europeans and Arabs influenced by white-skinned “Aryans” from Ukrainia, before those Slavic groups mixed w Europeans most “Whites” were either tan Vikings, dark olive Greeks or Arabs. Race = color in a shallow narrow-minded proud Full of Sh- community, or Country. Egyptians didn’t glorify their color or race, to them race = nation and like Ancient China, race = direction too. Egyptians in common color, looks, appearance and Culture, by 3,000 YO anyway, can be thought of as a intermediate between Tan Arabs and Dark Ethiopians. I really wish all these “woke autocentrics” got how UnAmerica and Un’Black’ real Egyptians were. They weren’t a cult of narcissists or light folks either.

      • Bishop says

        February 16, 2022 at 2:37 pm

        Brother you can not be serious.I guess you haven’t seen all the evidence. They are changing the narrative to truth because the truth is evident. So you mean to tell me all these people you’ve listed came to Kemet and adopted the Black African culture, painted themselves black cause brown is a shade of black (because we aren’t all black like tar) didn’t paint themselves as they were if they were caucasian..Not to mention the Greek scholars of their time that came thousands of years after the founding still saw them as black we’re suppose to believe you..So Cambridge, Harvard The Pietrie Museum on these studies don’t know what they’re doing?.You really need to do some research because what you said seems foolish and misguided..They were Black African civilization, culture, religion amd its seem in their statues,paintings,writings amd so much more..why can’t you people stop amd just except it..It doesn’t matter if you do or dont,don’t, facts are still the same..They were indeed a Black African civilization without a doubt..Leave the racist tropes alone..You’ll feel better if you just except the truth and learn true history and have a better understanding of the human story..When you don’t you start to look foolish arguing same old racist tropes cause everyone knows the truth..

        • Uiliam says

          February 21, 2022 at 11:55 pm

          Well, I think the separation of the African population during the early Holocene was enough, I think the culture of the uprising might indicate something. Well I’ve seen Africanists post pictures of Egyptians Punishing Libyans with the following sentence, “Black putting caucasian in their place” and then I lost patience, because by your logic Libyans are also black Africans, even if the Egyptians put it a tone above , white-skinned, and that’s not African anymore, not forgetting that Libyans are also represented with curly hair, what will this be? In addition to claiming the Egyptian culture is bizarre, the Egyptians are ancestors only of the current Egyptians, that is, from the racial point of view Americans, children of blacks with Arabs, whites, etc., are black, that is, as far as we know Egyptians ancients didn’t leave the country in UFOs when Alexander the Great conquered it. I’ve never seen Egyptians and Mesopotamians as white or black, and if you consider the continent, Dravidian Indians are Asian, in addition to the fact that Kushita art already represents the blackest blacks, the wider women, it’s like taking a leap in a few kilometers, and about hair, egyptian wigs originated in nubia, high class egyptian women are sometimes represented with fair skin, even in tombs located in what is now Sudan, near Meroë (some fashion,? I’ll call it Byonce fashion, of course , if Byonce weren’t full of Indo-European mtDNA), anyway, other than that, nobody here is of Egyptian descent. Aside from that appealing to Egypt as the height of civilization in Africa is literally a European view of what a civilization is, although even Europeans seem to be proud of their more tribal (less Greco-Roman) things.

        • Kelechie Agu says

          March 7, 2022 at 7:50 am

          Well said Bishop, it’s FEAR! Fear that if we know who we are; our names, culture, God & the greatness of who we were in the past, we’ll rise again into a great nation of people and do unto them as they have done unto us. Sadly they never took time to know us because we are just a loving people who love humanity.

    • Alicia Thibodeaux says

      November 9, 2021 at 9:58 pm

      Please find some history on white people other then, STEAL KILL RAPE OPRESS. Except REAL TRUE FACTS, instead of the lies you will be better off.

    • Alicia Thibodeaux says

      November 9, 2021 at 9:58 pm

      Please find some history on white people other then, STEAL KILL RAPE OPRESS. Except REAL TRUE FACTS, instead of the lies you will be better off. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • Alicia Thibodeaux says

      November 9, 2021 at 9:59 pm

      Please find some history on white people other then, STEAL KILL RAPE OPRESS. Except REAL TRUE FACTS, instead of the lies you will be better off. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • sikai says

      June 17, 2022 at 8:19 am

      To you, black means something else totally now than it did then. Nubia was a nation and how the Egyptians identified themselves may have been un Nubian but it did not mean that Egyptians were not black.

    • kemet kush says

      June 23, 2022 at 2:27 am

      just like the fake white Jews, there are fake white Egyptians

  6. Fingal says

    August 10, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    Oops! No they weren’t, they were caucasian white. https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/22/health/ancient-egypt-mummy-dna-genome-heritage/index.html

    When will Cambridge BLM propaganda peddlers ever learn?

    • kuks says

      September 13, 2018 at 5:49 pm

      The paper you sited made sure to state that the research was of a single site somewhere in middle egypt which was closer to the arabs and not where the pharoahs lived….they also mentioned it was not representative of the whole egyptian population. so what are you talking about? smh

      • Derriun Raney says

        June 9, 2022 at 4:32 am

        Arabic invaded Egypt period so there for it’s not there land

    • Dave says

      February 20, 2019 at 5:16 pm

      I went into the drugstore the whole owl was full of sunscreen I asked the store manager do you sell a lot of this he told me we can’t keep it in stock it goes as soon as we put it on the Shelf. I am a black man I should have bought stock in sunscreen he told me that Europeans cannot stay in the sun too long so you cannot work the cotton fields you could not do your tobacco and there’s no way you could have worked in Africa and remember there’s no pyramids in Europe and Asia and today you don’t even know how they were built.

      • Realist says

        March 3, 2019 at 8:40 am

        There are pyramides in many places. Mexico, Sudan e.t.c. The largest ones can be found in the land of the dragons, China.

        • Anya says

          July 25, 2020 at 11:48 pm

          Thats because Africans have been traveling the world thousands of years before the Spaniards. White historians tried to destroy that history, but its evident that Africans traveled to South America because of items that are found their that came from Africa (crops, weapons etc.) Also central America has those giant Olmec heads that have African facial features. Its also evident in my country the Philippines, theres a group of people we call the Aeta they look African. They’re said to be the original Filipino particularly the ones that are short, dark, with curly hair (pygmies).

          • Uiliam Lima says

            February 22, 2022 at 1:01 am

            No, that’s a lie, the populations descended from native Omelcs are identical to the sculptures, and you don’t have Egyptian ancestry, which makes it so stupid that I’m not proud to be Chinese, even though Europeans and Asians are of origin ‘out -of-africa’. And much of the Egyptian architecture, for example, is Mesopotamian, don’t forget that Egypt was a child and the cities of Asia were already old. AH, of course you will say that Mesopotamians are also black, of course, Europeans are also, of course, they only became white during the Great Navigations, it seems.

        • Alicia Thibodeaux says

          November 9, 2021 at 10:14 pm

          True that!

      • Alicia Thibodeaux says

        November 9, 2021 at 10:13 pm

        They HATE US cuz they aint US!

    • Alicia Thibodeaux says

      November 9, 2021 at 10:04 pm

      When will you read books instead of BS of what lies told

    • Bishop says

      February 16, 2022 at 2:41 pm

      You are to funny..you think because you said that and don’t want to admit it that it makes them caucasian..to funny..sorry but they were Black..

    • kemet kush says

      June 23, 2022 at 2:29 am

      hahahaha

  7. S Hood says

    October 23, 2018 at 5:33 am

    Continue on your journey to share truth, and knowledge of what is true wisdom for those who oppose are not relevant. Asa’

    • MsAfropolitan says

      October 23, 2018 at 4:23 pm

      Thank you.

      • Deborah Lloyd says

        December 5, 2018 at 5:45 am

        Just found your blog–and I love it!!! Looking forward to the publication of your book in 2019!

  8. Victor says

    February 20, 2019 at 4:42 pm

    Hi there my name is Victor Jackson. I am looking for a knowledgeabl scholar of Kemet Africa for a Motion Picture film if you or know someone please have them give me a call my number is 757-227-0388 thank you very much

    • Line says

      June 2, 2019 at 9:40 pm

      Actually the Egyptians weren’t black Africans, they were genetically closest to Modern and Neolithic Levantine and Anatolian populations according to a recent study on the topic. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694:

      The samples used were dated to the Pre-Ptolemaic (New Kingdom, Third Intermediate Period and Late Period), long before any Greek invasions, so making that argument would be a fallacy.

      The Y-chromosome haplogroups of two individuals could be assigned to the Middle-Eastern haplogroup J, and one to haplogroup E1b1b1 common in North Africa. The absolute estimates of sub-Saharan African ancestry in these three individuals ranged from 6 to 15%, which is significantly lower than the level of sub-Saharan African ancestry in the modern Egyptians from Abusir, who “range from 14 to 21%.”

      Mainstream scholars reject the notion that Egypt was a white or black civilization; they maintain that, despite the phenotypic diversity of Ancient and present day Egyptians, applying modern notions of black or white races to ancient Egypt is anachronistic. You used outdated methods of anthropology that group peoples into a black and white race, to justify your point. How does that help you?

      • OG says

        November 25, 2019 at 9:02 am

        Use you knowledge and stick in your ass

      • Osirisien says

        December 27, 2019 at 2:38 pm

        So if categorizing ancient egyptians as ‘black’ or ‘white’ is false, then why are you saying ‘egyptians were not black’?

        • Uiliam Lima says

          February 22, 2022 at 12:50 am

          IN THEIR WAY, EVEN EUROPEANS ARE BLACK, BASICALLY A GOOD PART OF THE NORTH AFRICAN DNA IS ALSO PRESENT IN PORTUGUESE THROUGH HUNTER-GATHERING PEOPLE WHO SETTLED IN THE IBERIAN PENISULA, I think I’m black too, shake me. THE WORLD IS NOT JUST BLACK AND WHITE, THE QUESTION IS THAT NERFETITI DOESN’T LOOK LIKE WHITE OR BLACK, A POPULATION WAS ISOLATED FROM SUB-SAHARIAN AFRICA BY DESERTIFICATION AND SOME MILLENNIANS AND THEY HAD DIVERTED, SO THAT EUROPEANS DIVERTED BETWEEN THE COMMON ANCESTRALS THEY HAD WITH ASIANS,

      • Alicia Thibodeaux says

        November 9, 2021 at 10:16 pm

        Please go find some books with real “TRUTH” please.. Do you even know the crap you just texted, please get your information right before just putting so crap you read off tweeter.

      • Bishop says

        February 16, 2022 at 2:46 pm

        Please read the correction on that DNA study you are quoting..I dont think you read the whole study because they acknowledge they got their samples from a site where there were known invades from the Levant and it is in no way a example of Ancient Egypt as a whole..it says those very words in the study you quoted..I guess you thought we didn’t read the same study amd it was debunked when peer reviewed..you guys are to funny and trying to hard..sorry but yes they were Black. Go to the Cambridge, Harvard,Pietrie websites amd you’ll get your answers..please read all of that then come back..

      • Derriun Raney says

        June 9, 2022 at 4:39 am

        They are genetically for Ethiopia dummy the country is in Africa not Europe not abrab y’all hate black people so much that even as it shows on the map Egypt is in Africa y’all still deny and say it’s in an Arabic land just sad

  9. Kakuruwakantananamuku M. says

    July 19, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    This is a great platform for exchange of valuable ideas, both physically and spiritually.
    I think we need to teach each other still. I mean ll of us; Africans, Americans, Australians, Asians and Europeans. Leave out Black and White or Brown and Yellow.
    We all have one heart, head, brain and blood! Some are advance in certain areas, some are still behind. However we are moving towards omega point. How and when we are going to reach there, still a mystery.

    • Kakuruwakantananamuku says

      July 20, 2019 at 2:44 pm

      Dear Minna Salami

      You are the voice crying in the Sahara Desert: “Awake from your slumber Africa.”

      I think now at least some Africans are becoming enlightened. We have been too long with the belief that Africa is a ‘dark continent’, therefore our skin and our mind are also dark! I am teaching African Spirituality in our only Seminary in Namibia. Most Namibians find it very strange. I think it will be very helpful if one day you could organize a symposium on African Spirituality and how African will reach an era of enlightenment. I have just now returned from France where I spent two months studying and reflecting on the life of a young French priest who started a group of Missionary priests and Brothers in Aix-en-Provence, in 1816, but now members of this group are all over the world, including Namibia. I think Africa needs ‘intellectual’, spiritual and even physical revolution’, is it is possible. But the masses in Africa are not yet aware about their God given dignity.

      I really admire your courage. But I wonder whether you are free to come to Africa and give some talks as Professor Patrick Lumumba is now doing. We need African of such a calibre. But one major problem in Africa as Prof. Lumumba said is: “those who have ideas have no power, on the other hand those who have power, have no ideas’ of how Africa will value ourselves and share the immense resource we have in this ‘Paradise’ considered to be a ‘dark continent’. Please publish more articles on African Spirituality.

      Keep up the valuable task granted to you by Shankendengere/Karunga/God

      Kakuruwakantananamuku

    • Alicia Thibodeaux says

      November 9, 2021 at 10:09 pm

      Problem is you cant leave out something that has been with “PEOPLE” for far to long. It was the white people who came up with the BS. In 2021 it still reeks of the STANK of Race, Color by the very people who made it last as long as it has…

  10. Osirisien says

    December 27, 2019 at 2:00 pm

    Hey,
    1,2,3 testing

  11. Osirisien says

    December 27, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    If someone say that the color of number 4 is ‘green’, you don’t say ‘no’ and then go on to attempt to show that ‘number five is (geneticaly) like number nine’.

    • Osirisien says

      December 27, 2019 at 2:54 pm

      Simply say that the question of color of numbers is meaningless, period! It is a one sentence answer! Likewise gene studies trying to show ‘who the egyptians were’ flashes down the toilet!

      • Alicia Thibodeaux says

        November 9, 2021 at 10:21 pm

        African Eqyptians are the People of the Sub-Sahara, people of Sudan, the Somolians, and Ethiopians. Read books that tell the TRUTH and get out and off FACE BOOK TWEETER and all the other sites that have you believing in “FAIRY TALES”…

  12. Osirisien says

    December 27, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    I have seen the same nonsense in wikipedia and ‘rational’wiki. They begine by saying that humans can’t be categorized into ‘races’. Then they spend 6 hours arguing why ‘afro/euro centrists are wrong!!

    • Osirisien says

      December 27, 2019 at 3:26 pm

      If humans can’t be categorized into ‘races’, then ‘euro/afrocentrists’ are neither RIGHT nor WRONG. They are simply MISGUIDED.

      What is wrong is not the ANSWER they are spewing. It is the QUESTION they are asking.

      • Osirisien says

        December 27, 2019 at 3:50 pm

        But by zeroing in on attacking the ANSWERS, rather than showing what is wrong with the QUESTION, they unwittingly legitimise the question, which they insinuated that it is illegitimate!!

        For if you tell me ‘afrocentrists are wrong cause ancient egyptians look like modern ones’, an ‘afrocentrist’ will show paintings clearly depicting dark egyptians. In what way then isn’t the ‘afrocentrist’ arguing with wikipedia on whether or not egyptians were black?? If they are arguing, how can wikipedia be also correct in saying ‘the question of race don’t apply to egyptian?’

        • Osirisien says

          December 27, 2019 at 4:05 pm

          So mainstream academia contradict itself! In effect, they are saying that the modern racial category doesn’t apply to ancient Egypt,…but anyway, nevertheless lets argue whether ancient egyptians were blacks or whites!!

        • Derriun Raney says

          June 9, 2022 at 4:56 am

          Well said

  13. Osirun (wake) says

    December 28, 2019 at 5:36 am

    DNA ANALYSIS
    What if you are presented with 3 pple:
    1.)A Nigerian
    2.)Obama’s daughter
    3.)Obama’s (white) cousin. Asuming that you have no knowledge of her parents, the homework is to casualy categorize Obama’s daughter. I bet 99% of the pple will fail the test! Most will say that Obama’s daughter is geneticaly closer to Nigerian than to Obama’s cousin!

    So much to DNA tests!

    The mainstream though is telling us that by studying a coarps, come 2000 years from now, they can conclude that someone LOOKED LIKE a white american than a Nigerian!!

    So much for DNA analysis!

    • Osirun (wake) says

      December 28, 2019 at 5:59 am

      Another case is negritos or Papuans. Their DNA is closer to those of far east asia than to a Nigerian!

      It turn out that DNA does not tell us how someon look like. The ENVIRONMENT they live in is a better indicator! In our case, the Egyptian and Arabian sun-scorched deserts cannot be native land for light-skinned pple.

  14. Osirun (wake) says

    December 28, 2019 at 6:42 am

    MIGRATION:
    In not over 2000 years ago, about every group in Africa have migrated in huge numbers. Khoisans, Bantus, Austronesians, Bejas, Cushites, Nilots, Fulanis, Tuaregs…etc, all have migrated. From what mainstream tells us, this make the Egyptians the only group in Africa that we are supposed to beleive has subbonly remain in the same place for over 6000 years despite their land undergoing a drastic climate change and a constant war both internaly and with notherners!!!

    • Derriun Raney says

      June 9, 2022 at 5:02 am

      Exactly

    • Derriun Raney says

      June 9, 2022 at 5:02 am

      Exactly!

  15. Asis (sun) says

    December 28, 2019 at 9:39 am

    DEFINING ONE’S SELF:
    I have seen some modern Egyptians say “we are not white nor black, we are (and we were always) just Egyptians.”

    But did those ancient Kemetians had such a self limiting, EXCLUSIVE rather than INCLUSIVE definition of ‘Egyptian’? Kemet expanded from the upper Egypt all the way till Turkey! Then they pushed all the way till Sudan! At what point did this expansion defined ‘Egyptian’?? Were they trying to curve out a nitch that define ‘Egyptian’ based on skin color tone? Of course not! Neither did including pple of varying colors made Egyptians less Egyptians. Rather, it made ‘Egyptian’ more powerfull!

    ‘Egyptian’ INCLUDED but was not limited to ‘Nubian’ cause that was the land of their ancestors or ‘land of gods’. The true definition of ‘self’ is INCLUSIVE rather than EXCLUSIVE.

    Same should be in modern ‘Egyptian’. Being both a descendant of great, earlier, black pple and great latter Greeks doesn’t make you less ‘Egyptian’. It makes you a great person! A sot of crisscross of giants!

    • Derriun Raney says

      June 9, 2022 at 5:06 am

      Egyptian are the original people of the land not people who moved there took over and called it Egypt the truth of the matter is that it’s not even Egypt it’s original name is kemmet

  16. Sherman says

    June 17, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Sad how even the university of Cambridge has caved to racist afrocentrism the genetic evidence has shown time and time again that modern Egyptians are the direct descendants of the ancients in fact the ancient Egyptians not to mention ancient Egypt culturally was closest to the other civilizations of the fertile crescent also Just because someone doesn’t have an afrocentric bias doesn’t mean they have a Eurocentric bias especially since modern scholars already know how to minimize bias better than anyone else with an extremely intellectually vigorous approach frankly afrocentrism is just an intellectually lazy attempt to circumvent the requirement for rigor by using the genetic fallacy in an attempt to discredit far higher quality research and replace it with their own delusions of racial superiority

    • R B says

      September 7, 2020 at 7:24 pm

      I love how people like you accuse Black people of having an AFRO-centric bias when talking about EGYPT when EGYPT is in fact…IN AFRICA!!!
      DUH!!!

      • Darrell says

        October 16, 2020 at 4:43 pm

        It is time we recognise the geographical relaities tha kept people in Africa separated and developing independently. Most likely the Khusite Pharoah rulers were light or dark brown in skin colour becuase they were hamitic people and not or less of nilotic or Bantu origin.

        • Darrell says

          October 16, 2020 at 5:31 pm

          It is time we recognise the geographical realities that kept people in Africa separated and developing independently. Most likely the Khusite Pharaoh RULERS were light or dark brown in skin colour becuase they were hamitic people and not or less of nilotic or Bantu origin. This does not exclude inter-breeding among these racial groups.
          There is no evidence that during the time of the Pharaoh’s the people of the whole of Africa were one interacting population of a single black race. As pointed out earlier, there is a great diversity in the languages spoken in Africa. This is further proof of the isolation of African populations over thousands of years. Or are we supposed to believe that the Zulus in South Africa are equally resposible for building the Pyramids as the Kushites because the Zulus live in Africa. Lets not be ridiculous.
          Africa is a huge continent with uninhabitable and impenetrable regions that were barriers to interactions between people. Until recently, even the Bantu people who originate in West Africa and migrated southwards and south eastwards had practically no contact with the other Bantu people in Central and Southern Africa after they left from their places of origin.
          Also, are there any people in Africa outside the boundaries of Kushite dominated Pharaon lands who have built Pyramids or who have written in hieroglyphics? Not that I know off. Even the Buganda and Bunyoro kingdoms in Uganda at the source of the river Nile had no indigenous written language and neither did they have any simple house building technologies that would suggest an intimate connection with the great north eastern people (Kushites) who lived and ruled in Pharaoh land and built the pyramids.
          Also, we should not forget that skin colour is not directly determined by racial origin. Otherwise, lets consider whether the Aborigines of Australia built the pyramids. They are black, aren’t they?
          Of course, some white academics are so hell bent on denying that it was people of colour who built the pyramids that they have even speculated that the pyramids were built with the help of extra-terrestrials. No evidence of course.

          What colour wher they? Most likely, dark brown, light brown and blight black.

      • Alicia Thibodeaux says

        November 9, 2021 at 10:33 pm

        Preach! Haters gonna hate. And if you have no History except what you “STOLE”…. What can be said. I have yet to find out “TRUTH” from the people who have lied for years because they have no real history of who they are. And hate that Black African People are the TRUE Gods… And have been the beginning of creation since time began.

        If it was not for Black African People, white people would not exist. Two Black African people can create a white child, but a 2 white people cant create a Black Child…

        • Uiliam Lima says

          February 22, 2022 at 2:42 am

          Basically you called blacks primitive, I owe blacks my origin as much as you owe whites, unless you think you’re a primitive homo sapiens, well that’s another story, and skin color change wasn’t done by blacks , and there is no consensus on the exact skin tone of the homieids, the closest population that carries the most ancient DNA has brownish skin, namely the KOISHAN people, but thank you, this strange comment will stay in memory. can give life to a white child, mutations don’t happen like that, it’s determined by the climate, you didn’t choose your dark color, the sun did., and these white ancestors are not the same as yours thousands of years ago, the unless you’re a primal immortal rock

    • R B says

      September 7, 2020 at 7:31 pm

      I love how people like you accuse Black people of having an AFRO-centric bias when talking about EGYPT when EGYPT is in fact…IN AFRICA!!!
      DUH!!!

      As to modern EGYPTIANS being the direct descendants of Ancient EGYPTIANS, you are so wrong on every level.

      Modern EGYPTIANS never braided their hair or used Afro-Pics like Ancient EGYPTIANS.
      You DO KNOW what Afro-Pics are, right??
      Or do you believe that to be fake NeWS??!!

      • Issey says

        March 14, 2021 at 5:02 am

        Lol, and Russia is an Asian country. You clearly don’t understand how *transcontinental* countries work. Egypt is literally the land bridge between the Mediterranean, Near East, West Asia & East Africa. Stop trying to steal Egyptians right to their ancient history from them. If you have any ancestors from the TransAtlantic slave trade your ancestors aren’t from anywhere near Egypt & you likely have no DNA whatsoever in North African areas. Unless you are a descendant of the Indian Ocean Muslim slave trade you probably don’t have East African or North African DNA connections. Just because you have had your history erased doesn’t mean you get to just take some other ethnicities culture because you like it.

        • Aisha says

          July 24, 2021 at 7:54 pm

          Jeez, I then wonder why so many people in North Carolina or Nigeria or even England share DNA with Ramses the II. It’s as though there weren’t fewer people on earth back then, and everyone isn’t distantly related. And oh wait, let’s not include the 9 waves out of East Africa to West Africa after the crumbling Sudanic Empire in the 1600s; that include tribes like the Fulani, the Hausa, the Kpelle, and many more tribes. I’m tired of people talking about things they have no idea about.

        • Alicia Thibodeaux says

          November 9, 2021 at 10:38 pm

          Now isn’t that the pot calling out the kettle… Black people populated this planet from sea to shinning sea from east west north and south of this planet. That means Russia to. If it was not for the Black Moors, white people would still be having sex with their farm/Live stock animals…. “SHEEP SHEEP SHEEP”… They would still be in the Caccus Mountains in the “DARK”…

        • Derriun Raney says

          June 9, 2022 at 5:14 am

          Same go for you practice what you preach

    • Bishop says

      February 16, 2022 at 2:54 pm

      They didn’t cave into anything but are just pointing out the obvious. It’s not Afrocentrism it’s the truth..they even tried to say that Great Zimbabwe wasn’t built by Black Africans until they had to admit that is was..Egypt is no different..All the evidence shows who they were a d what they looked like. It’s the evidence and it’s overwhelming..they had to correct the racist ideas that it was anything but an Black African civilization..its just the truth and like they said they want to correct the wrong that was done and tell the truth. That’s commendable to acknowledge something was wrong and to correct it cause they could’ve kept with the lie but one reason they did correct it is because with all the evidence it didn’t make sense that they were a ything but Black African..Even their gods were black..How much more evidence do you need so yes they had to correct it..

  17. R B says

    September 7, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    Did you honestly say, “ancient Egypt culturally was closest to the other civilizations of the fertile crescent??”
    Which civilizations were they??
    Nubia, you mean.
    So YOUre trying to get everyone else to believe that of all the 10 countries that Black Africans settled along the NILE River (Burundi, Tanzania, Rwanda, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Kenya, Uganda, Sudan, Ethiopia, and South Sudan) Black Africans conveniently skipped over EGYPT?? Or from your viewpoint, the NON-BLACK Ancient EGYPTIANS skipped over the rest of The Nile Valley Civilizations??

    Play that back in your head and see if you can pick up on your anti-BLACK racism along the way.

    • Alicia Thibodeaux says

      November 9, 2021 at 10:39 pm

      SAY it SAY ITTTTT….

    • Uiliam says

      February 21, 2022 at 11:44 pm

      The same may have happened with populations that separated by desertification, you Africanists don’t consider Libyans as black, even though their hair is wavy in Egyptian depictions

  18. Yuda says

    December 14, 2020 at 4:34 pm

    The ancient KEMETIU looked up South the great lakes regions of East and Central Africa as their ancestral lands. There were over 30 dynasties in KEMET before the Greeks (first Europeans) to conquer parts of Africa.

  19. 1 says

    December 28, 2020 at 6:55 am

    wasn’t a desert back then genius

  20. Me says

    June 16, 2021 at 12:32 am

    I don’t see Middle Eastern when I see ancient Egyptian pharaohs. I see black African features or a mixed individual with prominent black African features still dominating. Yet, they continue to lie to the ignorant public by shoving this whiteass looking Cleopatra over and over again as the image or poster child of an Ancient Egyptian (that sloot isn’t of African descent) just because she ruled Egypt in that era. So morons until this day think Ancient Egyptians were Caucasoid looking/Middle Eastern, and not African. This continued whitewashing of Ancient Egypt is truly disgusting and tremendously insulting to Africans. Africans should create a film showing how real ancient Egyptians looked like and let this bullcrap rest once and for all. I’m Asian btw.

    • Alicia Thibodeaux says

      November 9, 2021 at 10:52 pm

      If Black people were not Egyptians, who then? White people sure as hell was not. No way white people could live in that part of the world and survive. NO Melanin… That is our POWER that is OUR VIBRANIUM that is who we are. That’s why white people have been steeling our organs, drinking our blood and even eating us over the years. They want to be us, because we are the TRUE GODS…. And soon it will be seen. They are trying to destroy us because they are scared we do to them what they did to us…. But we wont because are “GREATNESS” does not rely on/in the HATE, and DEMONIC spirit as it does the white people who live their lives trying to destroy their “MAKER”.

      • Uiliam says

        February 21, 2022 at 11:41 pm

        Not white, not black, cult woman.

    • Bishop says

      February 16, 2022 at 2:57 pm

      Check out. Black Sands..Its a cartoon that addresses this a d they do it to show to the children who the Ancient Egyptians were amd it shows the heritage of black culture..theres so much more out there..

  21. J9u says

    February 22, 2022 at 4:13 am

    The Libyans are from North Africa, the weird Africanists sometimes say they are Caucasian, they had wavy hair. These populations separated in the desertification of the Sahara and taking it seriously, if Egyptians are black, whites are also aquatic, that is, there was never colonialism. s

  22. Eric says

    April 18, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    It amazes me that the world’s people outside Africa have staked their entire sense of WORTH on “not being black skinned” – and everywhere try to deny the existence of culture, civilization and excellence in technology, spirituality, construction, governance, (everything that makes humans sentient beings of high intellect and of a higher order than the domesticated animal or beasts of nature) among the black skinned! Why this existential fear to acknowledge the vast contributions of black skinned people to human civilizations!? Why the utter obstinate disregard for dark skinned Africans? To even deny they have a history on this earth going back 1000s of years! As a pupil in the 1970s my history curriculum taught us that African history began with the arrival of European explorers! Wow! Just wow! Shame on these creatures for pridefully defending their ignorance.

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  24. Chris_JP says

    June 7, 2022 at 1:45 pm

    I am Greek, and even schools in Greece are teaching that it was Black Africa from which ancient Greek civilization and culture was derived. Herodotus himself pretty much admitted to this. For too many Eurocentrists and white racists, the truth hurts.

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